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发表于 2007-7-24 00:37 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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[Known Bugs in the Game]

Well, like most game there are bugs that can sometimes be good
or bad. Well here is the list:

in order of seriousness.



When the Holy Rod is obtained, it automatically displaces ANY weapon item
currently equipped, even Langrisser, and the item will be lost forever!

Sometimes certain troop units are not given at a class change. For example,
Elementals seem to be unobtainable.

When successfully charming a unit, and that unit kills another unit, you might
receive the charmed unit's items.
(For example, Scenario 1, you charm Leon, and
he attacks Laird's lancer troop and kills it, and then you obtain Leon's Plate
armor and Great sword. It is not clear if this might be used to get quest items.
I think it wouldn't work, because the game thinks you killed Leon and gave you the
items; however if you kill characters with important items usually they don't give
them to you. Besides that Charm works seldom on powerful enemies.)

The way the game calculates battle-result counters is incorrect. The SFC version
uses formula (6 - troops died), instead of correct formula (troops bought - troops
died). Langisser Dramatic does it correctly. So in fact, this makes the SFC version
easier, since you will accumulate more A+ bonuses easier.


>From Freaky_Z: When saying "No" to "Is this okay?" during character creation, all
stats are reset except starting items. Doing this, you can obtain many items from
the start of the game such as Devil axes, saleable for lots of P. Though after the
6th time, the game freezes.


If you end the turn and have your units on Attack or Battle, and the units
happen to be archer or ballista types, and they're near the edge of the map,
it is possible that they might attack an enemy on the other edge of the map.
(This happened to me on the bridge level (scenario 8)).

Holding the cancel/fast button on cinema scenes will disorient the screen centering.


Wrong portrait to a character. In Scenario 21 Imperial with Sonia, Chaos' portrait
will look like a Vampire Lord, except when Chaos is talking.

Battle graphics sometimes glitch. A pirate or swordsman type class which does the
sword-blaze attack might do it twice (the 2nd time having no effect), and
magic-attacks might happen twice as well.

Very very slight graphic abberations in certain situations. For example, some pixels
of a portrait might be invisible, or the unit you select during general setup might
change for a split second. (Example: You select Soldier but some Civilians
show up instead)

Sometimes the HP reading does not show up, even if you have it enabled.

Sometimes the terrain bonus shown is way off, especially during General Setup and
during cut-scenes. (It might say 91% 00% or the like.)

Sometimes the HP/battle status appears on a character during a cut-scene
(it's supposed to be invisible at all times during a cut-scene)

Sometimes a unit will gain tremendous terrain bonuses. (For example, my Valkyrie
unit had 41% 41%.) This error is sure to happen if a water based unit is on land
and has a negative bonus (or any other unit has a negative bonus), it will appear
as a high positive number in a battle scene, usually around 40%. AK says it also
happens when attacking a ghost or such that can stand in a wall or any other
inpenetrable tile. I think that while the reading on the screen is inaccurate
the actual math involved remains the same, so this bug is not as major as it looks.

Sometimes a unit will show up where it's not supposed to be. For example, in Scenario
X3, while the enemy units twirl around an extra unit will twirl around that's not
supposed to be there.

The area when Sherry and Lester first meet have garbled graphics to the right side.

Text is sometimes incorrect (example: item description for Alhazard says AT+10 but
gives AT+12 in reality). That is the only incorrect description I found, so far.

>From AK: Scenario 14(25), Est and Ost don't have troops, yet you get gold from them
in the battle-result screen.

>From AK: Character graphic might not correspond to the correct character during
cinemas.


>From AK: Lester casting AttackUp1 might make Lester translucent.


>From AK: Serpent Knights attacking might only have the serpent move, leaving the
character riding the serpent floating in mid-air.


When selecting music or sound test, first screen of text might be blank, you must
press left or right to fix.


Within Inventory Equip, only AT and DF values are updated as items are equipped.
Items that give A+ or D+, for example, will not update your character's statistic
until after you leave the inventory screen.


>From Esca: After class change with runestone, D+ is reset correctly, but A+ is added
to your previous A+ statistic, making your A+ extra-powerful for that scenario only...
it is reset to normal once the scenario is over.


D+ and A+ bonuses from equipped items are ignored on the General Select screen.
(But are accounted for during gameplay.)
 楼主| 发表于 2007-7-24 00:38 | 显示全部楼层
主要是超任的Bug,我玩的是PS版,所以也没有验证,以下翻译只是客观地转述老外的观点.
翻译几个有趣的:
获得圣权杖后,它会自动替换当前装备的武器,而被替换的武器会消失,就连圣剑也不例外...

当媚惑一股部队后,且该部队击灭另一股部队,玩者将获得被媚惑之部队的物品.例如关卡1成功媚惑里昂,然后他击破里啊地,玩家就可以得到里昂的钢甲和大剑.不过此Bug不适用于取得重要物品.而且强大的敌人也没有几个吃这招的.

超任版关底算人数的方法不对,本应该是招募部队数-死亡部队数,结果却是6-死亡部队数,像海因开始只可以招募3个兵的就占了一些便宜.

在女神问题的结尾回答不的话所有参数会被重置,但获得的起始物品不重置.用此法玩家可以获得如恶魔斧等众多物品.但六次之后可能定版....

当你结束行动时如果有远程没行动.而指挥官站在版边,指令为战斗或突击.则远程可能攻击版面另一边的敌人.(老外的这种情况发生在关卡8)

使用转生秘石后防御修正是正确的,而攻击修正的数值在当前关卡等于原攻击修正+转职后的低级职业攻击修正.这使得转生的角色的攻击修正在当前关卡异常强大.不过进入下关后一切恢复正常.

其它的就没有什么翻译的必要了,大多数都是一些带来不便的Bug.像花屏或台词不对等....

呼!好累

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原来超任版的Bug这么多?

超任版关底算人数的方法不对,本应该是招募部队数-死亡部队数,结果却是6-死亡部队数,像海因开始只可以招募3个兵的就占了一些便宜.

在女神问题的结尾回答不的话所有参数会被重置,但获得的起始物品不重置.用此法玩家可以获得如恶魔斧等众多物品.但六次之后可能定版....

使用转生秘石后防御修正是正确的,而攻击修正的数值在当前关卡等于原攻击修正+转职后的低级职业攻击修正.这使得转生的角色的攻击修正在当前关卡异常强大.不过进入下关后一切恢复正常.

这3个Bug在PC版上都不存在

估计PS,SS版也没有

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PS,和SS版还是十分完美的.
在Der的所有版本中,SS当之无愧为最完美的版本.不过由于SS在国内不是十分普及,所以普通玩家能够玩PS就十分满足拉,(譬如说我... 我玩SS版还是多年前在机厅里的事,当时由于学习紧张,也没有通关....)
至于SFC,毕竟是第一次加入分支复刻,有点Bug也可原谅,何况上述基本都是良性Bud
发表于 2007-7-25 21:25 | 显示全部楼层
多谢还有些用.
发表于 2007-7-29 09:29 | 显示全部楼层

回复 #2 Schelfaniel 的帖子

我就是用SS模拟器玩的Der2,上面的bug还是挺多的——||
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